I just wanted to say a few words about Larry Walker. This is one of the greatest players of this era who is walking away from the game. After the game was over and the goodbyes were over at Busch, Walker came out to say goodbye. I wish we could have had Walker during his prime as he was a class act. The debate I have about Walker is whether he is a hof or not. I for one believe stats mean a lot and Walker does have impressive ones. I believe this guy stats may not be hof worthy but believe his is one. I know that if he does go in it will be as a Rockie but I would support this guy going in. Any thoughts?
Very similar stats to one of my favorite all-time ballplayers, DWIGHT EVANS.
AVG
DEWEY.....272
LW..........313
RBI'S
DEWEY......1384
LW............1311
RUNS
DEWEY.....1470
LW...........1355
HOMERS
DEWEY.......385
LW.............383
HITS
DEWEY.......2446
LW............2160
Conclusion--Considering Dewey edges LW in four of these five major offensive statistical categories, has NINE gold gloves, a memorable WS catch and other playoff highlights, and is completely OFF the HOF ballot...........would regretably say that LW has no shot at the HOF.
DEWEY and LW will both go down as two of my most liked ballplayers of all-time!
AVG
DEWEY.....272
LW..........313
RBI'S
DEWEY......1384
LW............1311
RUNS
DEWEY.....1470
LW...........1355
HOMERS
DEWEY.......385
LW.............383
HITS
DEWEY.......2446
LW............2160
Conclusion--Considering Dewey edges LW in four of these five major offensive statistical categories, has NINE gold gloves, a memorable WS catch and other playoff highlights, and is completely OFF the HOF ballot...........would regretably say that LW has no shot at the HOF.
DEWEY and LW will both go down as two of my most liked ballplayers of all-time!
Good to very good player,he was very decent before going o Coors, but didn't really have phenomenal years until he went to Colorado...7 GGs, 1997 MVP, cannon for an arm,career OBP .400 , not a HOFer though..
I will always remember Walker for breaking my heart homering with one out in the 9th inning last yr off of Foulke, in the WS and costing me a sweep of two large bets...every time I see him, remember that homerun..
Foulke grooving fastballs with a big lead, Walker goes yard to left center...for that, I will not vote him in the HOF when he's eligible (jk)
I will always remember Walker for breaking my heart homering with one out in the 9th inning last yr off of Foulke, in the WS and costing me a sweep of two large bets...every time I see him, remember that homerun..
Foulke grooving fastballs with a big lead, Walker goes yard to left center...for that, I will not vote him in the HOF when he's eligible (jk)
I love Larry Walker, but think that he is two or three productive seasons away from the HOF.
I do take issue with the suggestion that he's the best Canadian ever. Ferguson Jenkins, from Chatham, Ontario, had six straight twenty-win seasons and was inducted into the HOF in 1991.
Walker is definitely the best Canadian position player ever, but Jenkins' HOF status makes him the best Canadian MLB player ever.
I do take issue with the suggestion that he's the best Canadian ever. Ferguson Jenkins, from Chatham, Ontario, had six straight twenty-win seasons and was inducted into the HOF in 1991.
Walker is definitely the best Canadian position player ever, but Jenkins' HOF status makes him the best Canadian MLB player ever.
I don't care what his nationality is...if they want to make a Canadian Hall of Fame, put him in there. No way does he deserve to be in the MLB HOF. Inflated numbers from Coors Field and they aren't really all that impressive. Look at his stats from Coors Field for his career and compare them with his numbers away from that T-Ball stadium.
His stats are comparable to a lot of guys...but all of those guys played without the benefit of Coors Field.
Good player...but far from a Hall of Famer.
His stats are comparable to a lot of guys...but all of those guys played without the benefit of Coors Field.
Good player...but far from a Hall of Famer.
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align=left>Mon</TD><TD>133</TD><TD>419</TD><TD>59</TD><TD>101</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>.241</TD><TD>.326</TD><TD>.434</TD><TD>.760</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>1991</TD><TD align=left>Mon</TD><TD>137</TD><TD>487</TD><TD>59</TD><TD>141</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>102</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>.290</TD><TD>.349</TD><TD>.458</TD><TD>.807</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>1992</TD><TD align=left>Mon</TD><TD>143</TD><TD>528</TD><TD>85</TD><TD>159</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>93</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>.301</TD><TD>.353</TD><TD>.506</TD><TD>.859</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>1993</TD><TD align=left>Mon</TD><TD>138</TD><TD>490</TD><TD>85</TD><TD>130</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>86</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>.265</TD><TD>.371</TD><TD>.469</TD><TD>.840</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>1994</TD><TD align=left>Mon</TD><TD>103</TD><TD>395</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>127</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>86</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>.322</TD><TD>.394</TD><TD>.587</TD><TD>.981</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>1995</TD><TD align=left>Col</TD><TD>131</TD><TD>494</TD><TD>96</TD><TD>151</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>101</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>72</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>.306</TD><TD>.381</TD><TD>.607</TD><TD>.988</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>1996</TD><TD align=left>Col</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>272</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>.276</TD><TD>.342</TD><TD>.570</TD><TD>.912</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>1997</TD><TD align=left>Col</TD><TD>153</TD><TD>568</TD><TD>143</TD><TD>208</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>130</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>90</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>.366</TD><TD>.452</TD><TD>.720</TD><TD>1.172</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>1998</TD><TD align=left>Col</TD><TD>130</TD><TD>454</TD><TD>113</TD><TD>165</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>61</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>.363</TD><TD>.445</TD><TD>.630</TD><TD>1.075</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>1999</TD><TD align=left>Col</TD><TD>127</TD><TD>438</TD><TD>108</TD><TD>166</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>115</TD><TD>57</TD><TD>52</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>.379</TD><TD>.458</TD><TD>.710</TD><TD>1.168</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2000</TD><TD align=left>Col</TD><TD>87</TD><TD>314</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>.309</TD><TD>.409</TD><TD>.506</TD><TD>.915</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2001</TD><TD align=left>Col</TD><TD>142</TD><TD>497</TD><TD>107</TD><TD>174</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>123</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>103</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>.350</TD><TD>.449</TD><TD>.662</TD><TD>1.111</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2002</TD><TD align=left>Col</TD><TD>136</TD><TD>477</TD><TD>95</TD><TD>161</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>104</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>73</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>.338</TD><TD>.421</TD><TD>.602</TD><TD>1.023</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2003</TD><TD align=left>Col</TD><TD>143</TD><TD>454</TD><TD>86</TD><TD>129</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>79</TD><TD>98</TD><TD>87</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>.284</TD><TD>.422</TD><TD>.476</TD><TD>.898</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=left>StL</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>150</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.280</TD><TD>.393</TD><TD>.560</TD><TD>.953</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=left>Col</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>108</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.324</TD><TD>.464</TD><TD>.630</TD><TD>1.094</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=left>StL</TD><TD>100</TD><TD>315</TD><TD>66</TD><TD>91</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>52</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.289</TD><TD>.384</TD><TD>.502</TD><TD>.886</TD></TR><TR class="evenrow bi" align=right><TD align=left>Total</TD><TD align=left>--</TD><TD>1988</TD><TD>6907</TD><TD>1355</TD><TD>2160</TD><TD>471</TD><TD>62</TD><TD>383</TD><TD>1311</TD><TD>913</TD><TD>1231</TD><TD>230</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>.313</TD><TD>.400</TD><TD>.565</TD><TD>.965</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Give me a break...I never said anything about Rockies not making the Hall of Fame. Pull your head out.
When a player lights up Coors Field and had VERY AVERAGE numbers BEFORE and AFTER playing for the Rockies, it is blatantly obvious his numbers are inflated. He would have been a 20-25 HR with 80-95 RBIs a season player without Coors. Is that Hall of Fame material?
Look at his best season in Montreal: .301 23 HRs and 93 RBIs
Wow...but at least he's Canadian so let him in.
Give me a break...I never said anything about Rockies not making the Hall of Fame. Pull your head out.
When a player lights up Coors Field and had VERY AVERAGE numbers BEFORE and AFTER playing for the Rockies, it is blatantly obvious his numbers are inflated. He would have been a 20-25 HR with 80-95 RBIs a season player without Coors. Is that Hall of Fame material?
Look at his best season in Montreal: .301 23 HRs and 93 RBIs
Wow...but at least he's Canadian so let him in.
Clip Joint said:
FWIW, I agreed with you in an above post -- he isn't HOF material yet. And I also don't give a rip that he's Canadian as far as his HOF potential goes. But regarding his Montreal year as an example, wouldn't you want a guy who can hit .301 with power (23 hrs and 93 rbis), who can steal 20-30 bases and be a gold glover on D?
